Good Law | Bad Law #82 – Religious Freedom Wins, This Time W/ Jennifer Pizer

Aaron Freiwald, Managing Partner of Freiwald Law and host of the weekly podcast series Good Law | Bad Law, is joined by Jennifer Pizer, Law and Policy Director for Lambda Legal, to discuss the recent Supreme Court ruling in the Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado  case.


Founded in 1973, Lambda Legal is the oldest and largest national legal organization whose mission is to achieve full recognition of the civil rights of lesbians, gay men, bisexuals, transgender people and everyone living with HIV through impact litigation, education and public policy work. A few months ago, on episode 79 we were joined by another Lambda Legal attorney, Currey Cook, to talk about faith-based adoption and child-welfare agencies that discriminate against LGBT individuals and receive state protection..


Today’s episode continues the discussion we had with Widener University Law School Dean, Rod Smolla, on episode 66. Dean Smolla did a fantastic job breaking down the case and giving opinions on how the Supreme Court might rule. Now that the Supreme Court has made its ruling we wanted to bring in an expert to talk about the implications it will have on future cases.


Jennifer Pizer has been an attorney with Lambda Legal since 1996 and has been a leading voice for ending marriage discrimination against lesbian and gay couples, for stopping anti-LGBT discrimination in employment, health care, and education, and against the misuse of religion to discriminate. In addition to litigating impact cases, she develops legislation, advises policymakers, and works with community advocates to advance family law and nondiscrimination protections, and to oppose overbroad religious exemptions.


Though the ruling in this case is very narrow, Jennifer explains how the Justices’ various opinions in the 7-2 decision give us insight as to how the High Court may rule in future cases.


This is a fascinating discussion about not only the Masterpiece Cakeshop case but also the balance between religious freedom and anti-discrimination laws in the United States.


To read the Supreme Court’s opinion click here.

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Host: Aaron Freiwald

Guest: Jennifer Pizer